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About Learning, Inc.
441 W. Bonner Road
Wauconda, Illinois 60084
Phone: 847-487-1800
Toll Free: (800) 822-4MAT (4628)
Web Sites:

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Contact us >> Email us your questions and we will get back to you as soon as we can with an answer. Or call us toll free at (800) 822-4MAT. We look forward to hearing from you!

Our Team


Bernice McCarthy

Bernice is the Chief Innovation Officer and founder of About Learning, Inc. You can email Bernice at


Michael McCarthy

Michael is the Director of About Learning, Inc. You can email Michael McCarthy at


Mary Piekarski

Mary is Office Manager, Designer and client support specialist for About Learning. You can email Mary at

About Learning is an educational training and publishing firm that works with organizations throughout the world on how to create high performance learning. We offer 4MAT, a transformative process for improving the quality of teaching and learning in any educational setting. Our corporate Division—4MAT 4Business—works with corporations throughout the US and Canada to help them improve their training and development programs.

Please call us toll free at (800) 822-4MAT to learn more about how to improve teaching and learning within your organization.

4MAT Licensing Groups and Partners

Special Note: All 4MAT Licensing Partners have been through extensive training and development on how to deliver 4MAT Training Programs of the utmost quality. As such, they are fully Certified by About Learning, Inc. to deliver the full range of 4MAT Training Courses and to represent and consult on the proper training and or implementation of 4MAT in their respective regions and or areas of expertise.


So, we encourage you to reach out to any of our partners to discuss your specific training and or development needs.

Jeanine O’Neill Blackwell

Master 4MAT Licensee in US and Canada for 4MAT Corporate Training

Company: 4MAT 4Business

4MAT 4Business Web Site
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322 Courthouse Alley
Covington, LA 70433

toll free: 866.888.4MAT


Key Clients:

• Blue Cross Blue Shield   • Center for Creative Leadership • Merck • Meeting Professionals International


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Melinda Zanetich

Master 4MAT Licensee in Australia and New Zealand for 4MAT Educational and Corporate Training



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Key Clients:

• Dattner Grant

Hanne Houbak

Master 4MAT Licensee in Denmark, Norway and Germany

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Company: 4MAT Group A/S



CEO and Trainer Hanne Houbak
Mobile: +45 4040 3211


Master 4MAT Licensee in Europe

4MAT Europe Key Clients

• Grundfos   • Vestas •  Danfoss • Danish Crown •  Lundbech  • Coach Team • Stibo Systems • Arla • Velux • Jack & Jones

Paul Choi

Master 4MAT Licensee in Seoul, South Korea

Company: Paul & Mark

List of Key Clients:

• Samsung Electronics   • NC Soft 

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Carlos Ortiz

Master 4MAT Licensee in Mexico and Latin America

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Company: Human Capital 


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Key Clients:

• ITESM • LaLa 



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Master 4MAT Licensee in South Africa

Company: Intelliskills Consulting



Ravi Sundaram

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Master 4MAT Licensee in India

Company: Cert Team Development India




4MAT Trainers and Consultants

Special Note: All 4MAT Consultants have been trained to deliver the full suite of 4MAT Training Courses or program and are Certified by About Learning, Inc. to deliver and consult on the proper use of the 4MAT Model. 

So, we encourage you to reach out to our officially certified 4MAT Trainers to discuss your training or professional development needs.Robert Schmitt – FloridaAbout Learning is pleased to welcome Dr. Bob Schmitt to its list of Certified 4MAT Consultants throughout the country. Robert Schmitt is the former Director of Staff Development and Technology Integration for Horseheads Central School District in Horseheads, NY. 


Robert Schmitt – Florida   

Maggie Georgopoulous – Glasgow, Scotland


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